Our Goverment has taken another bone headed decision by banning one of the most informative channels in the world , PEACE TV.
Our government which is currently busy in controlling the lawyers and fighting the exported war on terror could not bear a channel spreading the message of “Peace” based on the true knowledge of Quran and Sunnah.
Peace TV link
Also:
Peace Tv on Geo Pakistan
syedfaisal 
I wouldn’t call it a channel of peace. When Zakir Naik comes and calls Yazid’s name with Razi Allah Taala Anha which causes quite a stir not only in Shiite circles but in Sunni circles as well, you can hardly ignore their not coming up with an appology. More over they blame it on a Fatwa from Darul Uloom Deoband, who in turn have refuted the claims of Zakir Naik by saying that a tyrant like Yazid, murderer of the Prophet’s family, cannot be called RA.
So it’s hardly a channel spreading “peace”, more like one spreading sectarianism.
Comment by SAWJ — March 29, 2008 @ 3:23 pm
I truly agree with Sawj, peace tv is only a channel of hypocrites, who apparently portrait themselves as Muslims but in truth they are spreading sectarianism and causing disintegration and confusion between Muslim ummah they are fulfilling the true desire of enemies of Allah, Holy Prophet Peace be upon Him and His Family and His companions, they want to destroy the true ideology of Islam, they are far from true essence of Islam, they only know the words of Holy Quran never ponder over the meaning and message of Holy Quran, so called scholar Zakir Naik is belong to the same race of the people who are stated as ignorant scholar and Allah has termed them as donkey who is bearing the weight of books but does not know anything about it, may Allah save all muslims from such satanic nature so called scholars.
Comment by Wahaj Haider — July 21, 2011 @ 9:07 pm
If you have a counter argument den give ur reasoning from Quran and Hadith.
i didnt listen to his comments but what i ve read about the issue its more of emotions then factual arguments based on Quran and hadith.
Comment by Faisal — March 29, 2008 @ 3:31 pm
You want me to give counter arguments from the Quran and Hadees to prove that the Dar-ul-Uloom Deoband refuted his claims of their passing a Fatwa to legitimize Yazid as RA? You have to be kidding me!
Comment by SAWJ — March 31, 2008 @ 1:16 am
nopes i want u to give logical reasoning against da action of Zakir Naik.
as far as da fatwa is concerned deoband is a school of thought dere are books by the authors of deoband on the topic such as “Amir Mavia (RaziAllah tala Anho) and Yazir (Rahmat ullah Alaih)” and dere may be a difference of opinion on the issue within the deoband ullemas (and i dont think something which is not mentioned in Quran should be made a matter of life and death or Iman).
The supporting argument from the part of Dr Naik is on this link.
http://www.islamictorrents.net/bb/viewtopic.php?p=6395&sid=e05e0015a38a26f18892f5b048b1d0e7
I asked for Quranic references or Ahadees on the issue coz i want to know myself what actually the issue is which has divided the muslim world for many centuries(i don’t have any sectarian belonging 🙂 coz i still need to know the Sectarian belonging of Prophet Muhammad (SAW)).
Comment by Faisal — March 31, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
Dear SAWJ
What you are saying is totally exagerated coming from shite sources. You need to dig more into the correct history of Fight of Karbala. Nevertheless, on the day of judgement you will not be judged on the basis of how much you hate YAZEED or how much you love him But yes you will be certainly asked how much you loved your prophet MOHAMMED SAW. And your love for Muhammed SAW will be measured on the basis of how much your deeds were near to the deeds of Prophet Mohammed SAW and his companions contingent to the knowledge of Quran and Ahadees Sahiya. Hope this make sense.
Faran Imam
Comment by Faran Imam — September 30, 2009 @ 3:02 pm
It’s nice to see that you yearn for knowledge.
Shah Waliullah Muhaddis Dehlavi, famous AhleHadees scholar, wrote in his book Sirrat-us-Shahadatain:
[Narrated by Ummul Momineen Umme Salma(S.A.)]
Rasoolallah(S.A.W.W.) came to my house, went into his room and told me to prevent anyone from disturbing him as he was very tired. Soon he was asleep.
After a few moments, Husain(A.S.) came into the house playing and was entering that room when I stopped him and said that his grandfather was very tired. But the Prophet called out that if it’s Husain, let him come.
I saw that the Prophet picked Husain up and sat him on his chest. Husain began to play and both grandfather and grandson were in a happy mood. I thought to myself, what a joyful occasion! I went back to my work.
Soon after, I heard the Prophet crying. I ran into his room to find Husain asleep on the Prophet’s chest and the Prophet crying with his hand extended out onto the floor with something clutched in it.
I was very worried and asked the Prophet what the matter was. He replied that Jibraeel had come and informed him that this grandson of his would be killed in the desert of Karbala after three days of hunger and thirst with his entire family.
He held out his hand and said that here is the sand from that desert. Put it in a jar. When it turns to blood, know that Husain has been killed.
The narration continues, but I’ll end it here. You can consult the book for the rest.
As for Zakir Naik’s argument, he states that Yazeed was one of the Tabaeen. Hasn’t he read Islamic history? Give me one hadees that legitimizes Yazid even as a Muslim.
If he was a Muslim, what was the bone of contention between him and Imam Husain(A.S.)? If so, he should have killed Imam Husain only, why his family? If the males were against him, was six-month Ali Asghar(A.S.) also guilty? Why was he slaughtered with a three pronged arrow instead of being given water? Why were all the women and children bound and taken to Syria on foot where they were kept captive for a full year with scarce food and water?
If we put the event of Karbala aside, Yazeed sent forces to burn and ravage Madinah and rape it’s women. This is known as the event of Harra in Muslim history. On the way back, his forces bombarded the Ka’abah with fire because Abdullah ibne Zubair was hiding inside.
I’m sorry I can’t give solid references to you on this but only reading about the battle of Karbala will give you goosebumps as to how low men can actually fall! Books of Tahir-ul-Qadri will help, he has references of Ahadees. A man who can fall to such depths can hardly be called human, let alone Muslim! I know I’m not a scholar or anything but my only advice to you is to research this topic yourself. Quite a long comment, isn’t it?
Comment by SAWJ — March 31, 2008 @ 10:56 pm
I am not here to defend Mr Yazeed but what I have searched and read in books(don’t rely on internet), there is a lot of contradictions in this issue. I am a sunni Muslim, so I definitely don’t follow shia scholars but if you want to enhance your knowledge or if you have real thirst of it, read a book written by JUSTICE MUFTI TAQI USMANI namely HAZRAT ABU MUAWIYA(R.A.). After reading the book, I went through the refrences it had from authentic historical and AHADITH books, I found that everyone now just follows what one hears from others. We don’t research on such sensitive issues and remain involved in sins. Just read the book once even if you are a shia because the book has references from Shia books too.
Thank you
Comment by Imran — April 1, 2008 @ 1:39 am
I am not here to defend Mr Yazeed but what I have searched and read in books(don’t rely on internet), there is a lot of contradictions in this issue. I am a sunni Muslim, so I definitely don’t follow shia scholars but if you want to enhance your knowledge or if you have real thirst of it, read a book written by JUSTICE MUFTI TAQI USMANI namely HAZRAT ABU MUAWIYA(R.A.). After reading the book, I went through the refrences it had from authentic historical and AHADITH books, I found that everyone now just follows what one hears from others. We don’t research on such sensitive issues and remain involved in sins. Just read the book once even if you are a shia because the book has references from Shia books too.
Thank you
Comment by Imran — April 1, 2008 @ 1:40 am
@SAWJ and @Imran
Thanx for sharing .
InshaAllah i will search more on the issue(Allah want us to think and ponder so why we should refrain ourselves from research, if we go on a shop to buy something we spend lots of time searching for the right one then why not to spend sometime on the most fundamental part of our soul i.e our religion).
But my only request is not to take extreme positions on the issue because only after that we will be able to ponder on the issue with a free mind.
Comment by Faisal — April 1, 2008 @ 12:46 pm
As far as my memory goes, I also remeber a Fatwa from Mufti Taqi Usmani which said that the crows of Karachi and Hyderabad are halal. Read it in some Sunni religious newspaper in which the authors bashed him over it. As far as Shia sources are concerned(authentic ones), they will never praise Muawiya, Yazid, Marwan, their successors or ancestors as these people are the most hated ones of all villains.
Comment by SAWJ — April 2, 2008 @ 1:53 am
@ABOVE
UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE GOT SHIA SOURCES AND SUNNI SOURCES BUT YOU WILL HARDLY SEE ANY MUSLIM SOURCE (TAKING HIDAYA FROM QURAN).
I AGREE WITH FAISAL ON
“still need to know the Sectarian belonging of Prophet Muhammad (SAW)”
Comment by Ahmer — April 2, 2008 @ 11:45 am
If you can find Islamic history from the Quran then sure you can. Yazid is a part of history, not Quran.
You have to find what he did, from history and judge those actions in the light of the Quran.
By the way, “Sectarian belonging of Prophet Muhammad (SAW)” is redundant. Saying this will mean Islam was there before him and was already divided in sects.
Comment by SAWJ — April 3, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
The history can be distorted and we find different verdict on the issue from different people so why to make it an issue of religion if it is history.
“By the way, “Sectarian belonging of Prophet Muhammad (SAW)” is redundant. Saying this will mean Islam was there before him and was already divided in sects.”
Exactly that’s what i mean and you said it yourself so why not to come on Quran and leave maslak issues.
Comment by Ahmer — April 3, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
There are ways of verifying history. It’s a whole subject. It is an issue of religion because it concerns the family of the Prophet and the Prophet himself. The event of Karbala is so huge and so powerful that you cannot ignore it. It’s not a maslak issue. It is the issue of being human or inhuman. Before turning to the Quran you must first know what you are turning to the Quran for. How much do you know about the battle of Karbala?
Comment by SAWJ — April 4, 2008 @ 12:37 am
@SAWJ
how much you know about the battle ?
your knowledge is based on the false teachings of the people who call them selves imams and some preachers of falsehood.
Why not leave the issue which is not clear on Allah to decide.
Comment by Jehan — April 4, 2008 @ 1:51 am
False teachings of imams? Which imams are you talking about, may I know? And yes, leave everything to Allah. Don’t curse the Americans, British, Jews or Danish. Leave them all to Allah. Well, there is a certain thing in our religion that is known as ‘Tabarra’ which may appear small to you but is the core of every religious act of yours.
Comment by SAWJ — April 4, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
Regarding the very first comment about Dr. Zakir’s ignorant behaviour and not replying to this matter, Please follow the link below which is the official reply from Dr. Zakir Naik:
http://n-islam.com/index.php?mod=article&cat=LatestArticles&article=143
He was away on Hajj and that’s why he couldn’t reply promptly and he replied as soon as he returned.
His reply contains many solid points (facts) as to why he used (Razi ALLAHU TALLAH ANHU) with Yazeed and it also raises some very good questions regarding abusing of Prophets’ companions (Sahaba Karam) and his wife (Ayesha) by the same sect.
Comment by Erum — April 5, 2008 @ 6:56 am
“He only said “Yazeed (May Allah be pleased with him)” since he does not consider Yazeed to be a Kafir and it is allowed to pray for the believers as Abraham (pbuh) too prayed for all the believers in the Glorious Qur’an”
Okay, so how does he explain the event of Harrah in which Yazid’s army bombarded the Ka’abah with fire? Again what was the bone of contention between Husain ibne Ali and him?
There were Sahabah like Hussain Ibn Ali, Abdullah bin Abbas, Ibn Umar and Abu Ayyub Ansari and Abdullah bin Zubair (May Allah be pleased with all of them) who participated and fought under the leadership of Yazeed.
I would really like to see a reference to this.
Comment by SAWJ — April 5, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
“Okay, so how does he explain the event of Harrah in which Yazid’s army bombarded the Ka’abah with fire? Again what was the bone of contention between Husain ibne Ali and him?”
This is impossible read sura e Feel what Allah did to the people who tried to destroy the Kaabah.
Comment by Faisal — April 5, 2008 @ 1:19 pm
He didnot explain the event of Harrah in the above mentioned reply as that event was never part of the question but It’ll be very interesting to find out what was the reply of the concerened “sectarian jammat” to Dr. Zakirs’ question and his challenge of abusing Prophets companions((May Allah be pleased with them) and his wife((May Allah be pleased with her)?
It’s amazing to see how Muslims love to do propoganda against their own brothers (while staying lip tight against the kufars. None of them ever bother to Reply to Dr. William Campbell and his book). All the good work done by Dr. Zakir naik was nullified in a second and he was blamed for promoting sectarianism despite all of his untiring efforts of bridging the gaps (not only)between Muslim but also among Islam and all other religions as well. Where were the Ulemas (who are so quick in throwing stones at him now) when they were needed to portray the right image of ISLAM? They neither did their job nor want to see anyone else doing it. I was watching the press conference held to condemn Dr. Zakir Naik and I heard the Alim (besides many other baseless alleagtions) blaming Dr. Zakir of forcefully preaching Hanbilil sect. I don’t remember Dr. Zakir “ever” giving any other reference than Quran and Hadith in his lectures. He is the only person always talking about “commonalities” among religions. Infact the Ulemas in the conference brought up the “sect” issue by blaming him so I would say the Ulemas are guilty of spreading “sectarianism”. And let’s suppose if he is promoting something false or wrong then why did’nt these Ulema speak up earlier? He has been doing lectures since 2000 so why did these Ulemas waited untill now to do the right thing?. Or were they waiting for a time like this to wage a hate war against him? It looks like these Ulemas can’t digest the message of peace and unity among different sects of Islam and they need to jeoperdize it.
To me all of this is plain and simple nagative propaganda and the really sad part is it’s Muslims against Muslims. Dr. Zakir said something based on his opinion and that wasn’t a sharaee masala and he didn’t ask others to agree with him or to follow him in this regard. He’s entitled to his opinion and he gave a sufficient answere to the criticism as well. Every one else has a right to agree/disagree and have a different opinion so stick with your own. But plz don’t start trashing him for having an opinion and plz don’t nullify all the good work he has done.
Peace tv features many other learned scholars beside Dr. Zakir and is really a breath of fresh air for Muslim Ummah in these hard times so Please do not stereotype the whole channel just based on one comment from one speaker.
Comment by Erum — April 5, 2008 @ 10:56 pm
@erum
agreed with u and to add after seeing dat harra example (after reading sura e Feel u will find dat it is impossible for n e one to destroy Kaaba) i think history should be seriously revised.
Comment by Faisal — April 6, 2008 @ 3:50 pm
@Erum: Uniting the sects and spreading peace? If he wanted to unite the sects he would never have praised a man who is held condemnable in all the other sects including Hanafi, Shafai, Jafri and others. It is common knowledge that these sects hold Yazid as the murderer of Husain and his family, then why did a “scholar promoting peace and unity” like Zakir Naik choose to promote the teachings of just one sect and negate the others? His actions hurt these sects just like the Danish cartoons did to all Muslims. When giving the answer, he chose to justify his actions by the teachings of one sect only, why not all when he is preaching unity among them? And as you say he is watched by all Asna Ashari shias, you are grandly mistaken! As far as the Prophet’s companions and his wives are considered, there are differences regarding to who actually were the companions and wives. And these companions and wives are never abused. As for Yazid killing Imam Husain(A.S.) in Karabala and being an R.A.:
“If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (For ever): And the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him.”—Surah Nisa (Chapter 4), Verse 93
India Times: So much for the Khoja Asna Ashari Jamaat getting offended only. I have a lot of Sunni friends and they were equally surprised and disturbed by it.
@Faisal: Ka’abah was constructed by Hazrat Adam(A.S.). The first time the Ka’abah was destroyed, it was by Hazrat Nooh’s flood and it was reconstructed again by Hazrat Ibrahim. It was again reconstructed during the Prophet’s lifetime. You may remember the account in which the Prophet(S.A.W.W.) settled a dispute between the leaders of the tribes in Mecca about who was going to place Hajr-e-Aswad near the Ka’abah. Abdullah Ibne Zubair hid in the Ka’abah so Yazid’s forces under Hajjaj Bin Yousuf attacked it with fire and stone. The remains were demolished by Marwan’s son Abdul Malik and he built the Ka’abah again to end the civil war between Muslims. And if you read about the signs of Qayamat, it will be demolished again by a “Habshi” christian king and hajj will be stopped for nine years.
A Short Account of The Battle Of Karbala
Comment by SAWJ — April 7, 2008 @ 2:07 am
“choose to promote the teachings of just one sect and negate the others?”
What are you talking about? Praising or cursing yazeed is not part of shariah’s or our faith!, none of us is going to Jannah or Jahannum on the basis of our feeling towards Yazeed (Just like in the case of Sahaba). It’s none of the sects job to teach Muslims about having opinions based on historical event. If a scholar from one sect says something about an event of history, it means he’s talking about his own perspective and no Muslim is obligated to follow his opinion in one way or the other. By not cursing Yazeed, A hanafi won’t loose his Imaan. Dr. Zakir Naik wasn’t preaching or promoting any sect, he didn’t ask anybody to repeat after him. He just used (R.A) while calling Yazeeds name based on his personal opinion and again he is totally entitled to it as hating Yazeed is not the basic Faith of ISLAM. And I will repeat again **I don’t remember Dr. Zakir “ever” giving any other reference than Quran and Hadith in his lectures.**
So if that’s what you are referring to as “preaching his sect” then I say we all should joing his sect “the sect of Quran and Sunnah”.
“there are differences regarding to who actually were the companions and wives. And these companions and wives are never abused.”
You answered your own question here. Despite all of the historical evidences, ahadith and the unanimous respect from all Muslims (except one sect) for the very same companions and the wife of the Prophet, the difference of opinion and difference of historical interpretation gives “all” the right to this sect to abuse the above mentioned respected personalities and hurt everyone else’s feelings but Dr. Zakir naik has no right to choose “not to” curse yazeed based on his interpretation? He didnot disrespected MUHAMMAD (Peace be upon him) or Hussain (May ALLAH be pleased with him), infact he didnot curse another Muslim for whom he had a difference of Opinion than some people. He didnot went against any Prophet , he didnot preached anything against Quran. So how come it’s allowed for that jamat to abuse people respected by others (not to mention hurting their feelings) based on difference of opinion but not for Dr. Zakir to “not” curse on the same basis?.
“I have a lot of Sunni friends and they were equally surprised and disturbed by it.”
yeah and I can give you an account of more than “alot” Muslims who are being indifferent to these comments and who aren’t hurt at all. So what? It doesn’t prove anything. Islam doesnot force us to have a certain opinion or faith in people other than ALALH (swt), his Prophets, and the basic principles of shariah. I hope you do remember the Iman-e-Mujamil and Iman-e-Muafssil. “Not cursing” Yazeed will not make any person any lesser of a Muslim just like it won’t affect the Imaan of shias by cursing the companions and wife of Prophet(peace be upon him). And I hardly can believe that this has caused an unrest in the whole UMMAH as Dr. Zakir is still giving lectures, he is still being invited by all sects and religions, Different renowned scholars from all over the world (including India) are still appearing on Peace tv and performing their duty of Dawah. I’ve not heard of any boycott or unrest. And if (as it’s claimed) Dr. Zakir is really mistaken then the only way to ressolve the issue will be to invite him to a crosss talk rather than doing negative propoganda and trashing. That would be the best way to convince every Muslim and Dr. Zakir himself that he was wrong or otherwise get convinced by him. If we can convince Non Muslims about the Haq by doing cross talks then why not among ISLAM? Maybe because it’ll require knowledge and courage and unfortunately that is one thing lacking in the scholars of today?
As far as the quranic refference you gave regarding killing of a Muslim, The incident occured in the battle field not in a drawing room or in an event of street mugging. The outcome could’ve been opposite had Hazrat Hussain(May ALLAH be pleased with him) won over yazeed. So according the Quranic verse the decision of cursing and subjecting to hell is upto ALLAH (swt) not us. The ayah no where suggests that Muslims should start cursing the killers but it’s for the Muslims to learn their possible Anjam in case of comitting such sin. This ayah does not suggest that a person not cursing a killer will be subjected to hell. And besides only ALALH can decide considering all circmstances that to whom to send to hell and heaven. We should not try to play GOD here.
“And as you say he is watched by all Asna Ashari shias, you are grandly mistaken!”
I never said that. I don’t have any way of knowing such thing. I believe that is what Zakir Naik suggested in his reply but he also didn’t use the word “all”.
Thankyou for providing information on the Yazeed’s attack. This is the first time I heard about this historical event and I’ll be doing some digging on it before forming an opinion.
In todays’ world , Islam and Muslims are facing much more imporatnt issues than deciding wether to curse yazeed or not. We need to put up an ilmi fight against the Non Muslims and show them the true face of ISLAM rather than propagating hatred among MUSLIMS based on difference of opinion and historical interpretation. On the day of Qayamah ALLAH will not ask us wether we hate Yazeed or not but we surely will be asked that what did we do when people published cartoons of our Beloved Prophet and why we didnot perform our Duty of Dawah and why we were preaching hate and propaganda against our own brothers when we had better things to do. Atleast Dr. Zakir’s performing his duty to spread the word of Quran and Sunnah. And in his own words “Jo cheez Ikhtilaf kee hai us ko chor do, jo cheez common hai usper toh kum uz kum amal kero”. Don’t we have enough common to get united and work for ISLAM than making rayee ka pahar?.
So either the hurt Jammat should call Dr. Zakir for a cross talk and present him all the proofs and facts and convince him or otherwise stop throwing trash at him and use their energies towards positive work.
Comment by Erum — April 7, 2008 @ 9:01 am
The reason that cursing Yazeed and hating him is that he negated the teachings of the Prophet(S.A.W.W.) of Islam and denied that any Wahi had ever been brought to the Prophet(S.A.W.W.) If such a man is worthy of being called R.A., well good luck to Zakir Naik. Dig into the event of Karbala and you’ll learn more about Yazid.
As for cursing the companions is concerned, I doubt any reference ever hints of Yazeed even being a Muslim, let alone a companion or wife. As far as the companions and wives issue is concerned, there are different references in Sunni and Shia books but I do believe that all Sunnis follow the Sahah-e-Satta, don’t they? Then why does everyone curse Yazid and one sect RA’s him? If Yazid was a Muslim, why doesn’t every sect RA him?
And as for Allah sending everyone to heaven or hell, the Prophet also declared, “Hasan and Husain are the lords of the young men in Paradise.” What justification is there of Yazid’s killing Imam Husain? Okay let’s not talk about Imam Husain. Let’s talk about his six month old son who was slaughtered by a three-pronged arrow. Is there any justification of a child’s slaying? Ok let’s set this aside too. What justification is there of digging that child’s grave, beheading his body, mounting the head on a pike and taking it to Damascus from Karbala? What justification is there of Yazeed not issuing orders to remove that head from the pike if in case it had not been in his knowledge? And which sect of Islam says that this is justifiable in the light of the Quran or Sunnah?
And as he says “Jo cheez Ikhtilaf kee hai us ko chor do, jo cheez common hai usper toh kum uz kum amal kero”. Doesn’t he know that calling Yazeed an RA will create a rift between the very Muslims he is trying to “unite”?
That Jamaat can call Zakir Naik for a crosstalk, I don’t represent that Jamaat. The only thing that I can extract from our discussion is that none of us is going to submit. As for your learning about the event of Karbala, it is very appreciable. This debate can go on and on for as long as you want, I don’t see us reaching a conclusion here. Good luck with learning about Karbala, may Allah help you in your search.
Comment by SAWJ — April 8, 2008 @ 12:48 am
OK firstly my mistake….when I said not knowing about yazeed’s attack…I meant the attack on Kaaba not event of Karbala. I think there hardly be any Muslims who don’t know about the event of Karbala. This is the first time I heard about yazeed’s attack on Kaaba and I surely will be researching on that to gain knowledge INSHALLAH.
“I doubt any reference ever hints of Yazeed even being a Muslim, let alone a companion or wife.”
If I’m not mistaken then do you mean there’s no reference about the wife(R.A.) and the companions being Muslim(R.A.)? or in other words Our Prohpet married a Non Muslim and all those Ahadiths narrated by Ayesha(R.A.) are actually from a non muslim?
“but I do believe that all Sunnis follow the Sahah-e-Satta, don’t they? ”
I believe all Muslims follow Sahah-e-Satta, not only Sunnis. And where does Sahah-e-Satta make it obligatory for Muslims to curse yazeed or simply anyone (like the narrators of hadiths in Sahah-e-Satta, the companions(R.A.) and the wife (R.A.))?
“If Yazid was a Muslim, why doesn’t every sect RA him? ”
A very good question indeed, I would like to rephrase your question in your own words that: Since shias also follow Saha-e-Satta and according to Sahah-e-Satta Hazrat Ayesha (R.A) and other companions (R.A) were Muslims as there are many Ahadith narrated and referrenced by all of them so why doesn’t every sect (R.A.) them? The simple answere in “your” own words is :”there are different references in Sunni and Shia books” so no sect follows Sahah-e-satta completely but in conjunction with the books from their sects. Since it’s not obligatory to curse someone so at the end of the day it’s a matter of personal choice.
“Doesn’t he know that calling Yazeed an RA will create a rift between the very Muslims he is trying to “unite”?”
Yeah it would have caused a rift “if” he asked Muslims to follow him in the act!! He neither asked them to curse nor to stop cursing. He never asked anyone to follow him but Quran and Sunnah. He never give any references from any sect but Quran and Sunnah. All he ever urge is that every person learns Quran and Sunnah. What he said was a personal act of his and he “explicitly” mentioned in his reply as well that he did not preached this practise or asked muslims to stop cursing yazeed. Infact it looks like the concerned sect is trying to force every Muslim to curse yazeed which is totally wrong because cursing someone is not obligatory in Islam and forcing something which isn’t a part of Islam is called Bidaa. I don’t ever remember Dr. Zakir asking Muslims to stop cursing yazeed. He’s totally indifferent to what Muslims choose to do in this matter. And I believe that is exactly what the concerned Jammat should do. I myself neither curse yazeed nor praise him as ALLAH has not imposed any obligation for either acts.
“The only thing that I can extract from our discussion is that none of us is going to submit. ”
You are absolutely right 🙂 we both have our own point of views and we can go on and on but won’t reach a conclusion. All we both can do is to keep learning and keep praying from ALLAH almighty for Hidaya.
Thankyou for your patience in listening to my point of view.
Comment by Erum — April 8, 2008 @ 6:25 am
You’re most welcome. I’m not going to present my points here, just correct a few mistakes.
“I doubt any reference ever hints of Yazeed even being a Muslim, let alone a companion or wife.”
I meant Yazid not being a companion or wife. It was a failed attempt at humor.
“I believe all Muslims follow Sahah-e-Satta, not only Sunnis. And where does Sahah-e-Satta make it obligatory for Muslims to curse yazeed or simply anyone.”
“Since shias also follow Saha-e-Satta.”
Shias do not follow Sahah-e-Satta. They have their own Hadees books called the Usool-e-Arba’a which they consider most authentic.
I’m not going to comment on the last paragraph concerning Zakir Naik although I have a few points in mind as this discussion has to end some day.
May Allah guide and keep us to the right path. Regards.
Comment by SAWJ — April 9, 2008 @ 12:39 am
peace tv is the best channel
Comment by ARSALAN — April 11, 2008 @ 3:40 pm
aoa u people might not know that it is not a unique statement made by dr. zakir naik this is the concept very popular in arab countries that yazid was innocent and it was a political war. and if anyone has objection than one should send relative hadith and other proofs to zakir naik coz he always says that iam open for correction. if u read history there was difference of opinion between hazarat ali and hazarat ayesha R.A. and between ali and abubakar. there are many hadith that support hazarat hussain R.A but we should not just rush at the worlds greatest scholor dr. zakir naik nither muslims should be to harsh at each other.
Comment by adil — April 13, 2008 @ 12:13 am
i agree with the comments above.
peace tv is great!
Comment by majid — April 14, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
I want to ask one thing from Shia ppl. they said extra thing in Azaan they said there were 40 Chapters in Quran and 10 of it was eaten by goat. ( are they mad or should we call them muslim) they have added something in Kalmah alos.
Comment by Umer — April 15, 2008 @ 5:23 pm
Peace Tv is doing great Job.
Pakistani gov should this great TV channel.
Comment by Shaneali — April 18, 2008 @ 10:39 pm
To SAWJ:
You are against the airing of Peace TV in Pakistan just because Zakir Naik said something respectable about Yazid? How about you open your eyes and ears and see how much of a change Peace TV was bringing into the lives of thousands of Pakistani teens, who have totally forgotten the very core of Islam? And if that one reason acc. to you should be sufficient to ban Peace TV then you should consider that Dr Zakir Naik isn’t the ONLY speaker on Peace TV. Infact, he only takes up 10% of the whole 24 hours of daily channel viewing. What about Yusuf Estes, Ahmad Deedat and countless others…? How many times have our spirits been lifted and our faith re-lightened due to these great scholars? I have lost count.
Seriously, Islam and Muslims, at the stage they are at need uplifting, and it isn’t gonna happen if people start holding opinions like you. If you support the banning of the channel then seriously and I mean SERIOUSLY start your own.
The number of Islamic channels in the world is so pathetic, they can be counted on a finger, and yet you raise one against the airing of one of the most, if not the most successful one? I seriously pray that you change your views on this fact.
Comment by ramizq1 — April 21, 2008 @ 12:02 am
AOA!
Actually u people want to blakmale Dr. Zakir Naik. But keep in mind u are doing his publicity. People are doing research and changing their false view got from traditiona molvies and even the majority has a false concept about this event but people are studying history
of islam and starting to keep silent about this event.
In history there are many battle b/w Muslims, but nobody dare to ask Hazrat Ali on wrong nor to Amir maweya and Hazrat Aeysha.
Unite Muslim. Create love b/w Muslims. Iyma has many
controversies but don’t fight but love each other. You should also love each other.Battle between Muslims week them and make the Mon-muskims’ slave.
Don’t be Bais. Always do research and study hadith and history care fully. we are live in an age which is even more and more bad than Hazrat Hussain(R.A)………….The best age is my age than ..after coming it than after coming it (Al-hadith)
Pray Allah and fear Allah.
Allah Hafiz
Comment by Abdullah — May 31, 2008 @ 8:46 pm
Tell me everybody,
Do you send salaat (darood) on hazrat Muhammad (S.a.w.a.) and his family( including hussain) in salaat (namaz) or on yazid.
Comment by Syed Fahimuddin Alavi — June 19, 2008 @ 10:16 am
hello misters……..im MD ALI(sunni muslim)…..i want to say one thing about the ISLAM that….if Dr Zakir Naik is telling any bad thing about IMAM HUSSAIN than….no muslim will follow Dr Zakir Naik…..bcoz Islam is based on Quran….but not on Dr Zakir Naik….Islamic knowledge is in the Quran n the hadiths not in Dr Zakir Naik……so…..Allah taala says that…..i will b with those who will b with the truth……so…….try to follow the rule of Allah taala
Comment by MD ALI — September 2, 2008 @ 9:50 pm
if Islam is telling that yazid was right than…..the final words r….yazid is right…..
Comment by MD ALI — September 2, 2008 @ 9:55 pm
Dear Brothers in Islam Assalam Alaikum,
Do mot argue one another even though your 100% sure about a matter. It’s againt saying of our Prophet(Mohammad SA). Only Allah gives and shoes right ways. Pray regularly on time. As U all know in prayer you have to read Fathiha(Alhamdh).
6. Guide us to the Straight Way
7. The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace, not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians).
So only Allah guides. Pray for that.
Rabana athina fidduya hasanathan wafil ahirathi hasanathan waginaa azaabah naar.
Comment by Hussin — October 21, 2008 @ 4:48 am
assalam o alekum i have no word for my dear brother zakir may allah bless you i hav been watching peace tv for 5 years and alhamdulilah my knolege too much increes about islam and alhamdulilah now im abl to do dawah on net and im so happy to do this whenever i have any chalenging questn i solve it whith dr zakir naik speaches my allah give you sucses more thet you want and blees you and your compenions who are helping you in your field ameen
Comment by fen of brother zakir — November 13, 2008 @ 12:58 pm
Allama IQBAL believed that the event of karbala is the only issue which can unite all Muslim sects on the basis of true care for prophet and his family.
Comment by zikr — November 21, 2008 @ 11:32 am
@Zikr
I vent gone thru this view of Allama Iqbal but even if he has said it , it cannot be true coz if u read the real source of Islam (the most authentic one) it teaches us to get united on “Tauheed” and the teachings of the holy Quran.
Comment by faisal — November 21, 2008 @ 1:29 pm
to get united on “Tauheed” ????
using a ‘national flag’ and talking of tauhid.
saying Allama Iqbal wrong is so easy for you and not zakir naik.
every person can tell you who is greater in understanding Islamic Thought.
tawhid want to unite compassionate people.
if oppressors are united under tauhid curse of God comes. as in case of bani israel you can see dear .
dont talk about tauhid if you can’t support justice.
Comment by zikr — November 22, 2008 @ 11:55 am
please see here.
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=RVjXMCgKmS8
who is allama iqbaal
Comment by zikr — November 22, 2008 @ 9:03 pm
There are three types of view on Yaziq ( 2 extremes and one moderate).
One extreme is he is kafir as Rawafidh claim. To have such a view for Rawafidh is easy as they also claim Abu Bakr, omar, Usman ( naoozubillah) too kafir.
The other extreme group thinks that Yazid was a righteous man and a just leader. Even some give him higher status than Abu Bakr, Omer, Usman, Ali. But to one even with very little knowledge of those times of earlest muslims. This view is not attributable to any of the scholars who are known for following the Sunnah or to any intelligent person who has reason and experience.
The third view ( Moderate) is he was a king of muslims, who did good deeds and bad deeds.He was not born until the caliphate of ‘Uthmaan. He was not a kaafir but it was because of him that the killing of al-Husayn happened, and he did what he did to the people of al-Harrah. He was not a Sahaabi, nor was he one of the righteous friends of Allaah. This is the view of most of the people of reason and knowledge and of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah.
Then they divided into three groups, one which cursed him, one which loved him and one which neither cursed him nor loved him. This is what was reported from Imaam Ahmad, and this is the view of the fair-minded among his companions and others among the Muslims. Saalih ibn Ahmad said: I said to my father, some people say that they love Yazeed. He said, O my son, does anyone love Yazeed who believes in Allaah and the Last Day? I said, O my father, why do you not curse him? He said, O my son, when did you ever see your father curse anybody?
Abu Muhammad al-Maqdisi said, when he was asked about Yazeed: according to what I have heard he is neither to be cursed nor to be loved. He said, I also heard that our grandfather Abu ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Taymiyah was asked about Yazeed and he said: we do not deny his good qualities or exaggerate about them. This is the fairest opinion . Majmoo’ Fataawa Shaykh al-Islam, part 4, p. 481-484
Comment by Malik Farooq Ahmed - A Kashmiri — September 5, 2009 @ 4:01 pm
Yes Malik Farooque,
Your comment is the last word on this issue.
Jazak allah Khair
Comment by Faran Imam — September 30, 2009 @ 3:14 pm
i love peace tv.
Comment by watch peace tv — October 4, 2009 @ 5:23 pm
peace tv is a true islamic channel spreading the message of islam on the base of Quran and Hadith
Comment by khalid bhatti — February 2, 2010 @ 2:32 pm
Pick a topic and we have so many of us fighting for/against… on the same topic.
For me Yazid is not a Human being, forget even comparing him to a Muslim. while I used to closely follow and appreciate Dr Zakir Naik’s speeches, I am very disturbed with Dr. Zakir Naiks usage of R.A for Yazid. I cannot use R.A towards a person who is murderer of our beloved Huzoor’s (Sallalahualaihiwasallam) family. We will get justice from Allah on the day in Hashr and Yazid should have and will keep realising what blunder he has made.
Dr Zakir Naik, please don’t hurt our emotions coz I truly respect you for your work as I have seen a non-muslim being converted just by seeing your C.Ds. Jazakallah u khair everyone.
Comment by Ameen — February 9, 2011 @ 7:04 pm
I read following comment from a perosn and i have a question. When every thing about Karbala decided from God then why you said that Yazid Killd Imam Hussain?
Shah Waliullah Muhaddis Dehlavi, famous AhleHadees scholar, wrote in his book Sirrat-us-Shahadatain:
[Narrated by Ummul Momineen Umme Salma(S.A.)]
Rasoolallah(S.A.W.W.) came to my house, went into his room and told me to prevent anyone from disturbing him as he was very tired. Soon he was asleep.
After a few moments, Husain(A.S.) came into the house playing and was entering that room when I stopped him and said that his grandfather was very tired. But the Prophet called out that if it’s Husain, let him come.
I saw that the Prophet picked Husain up and sat him on his chest. Husain began to play and both grandfather and grandson were in a happy mood. I thought to myself, what a joyful occasion! I went back to my work.
Soon after, I heard the Prophet crying. I ran into his room to find Husain asleep on the Prophet’s chest and the Prophet crying with his hand extended out onto the floor with something clutched in it.
I was very worried and asked the Prophet what the matter was. He replied that Jibraeel had come and informed him that this grandson of his would be killed in the desert of Karbala after three days of hunger and thirst with his entire family.
He held out his hand and said that here is the sand from that desert. Put it in a jar. When it turns to blood, know that Husain has been killed.
The narration continues, but I’ll end it here. You can consult the book for the rest.
Comment by MBK — September 1, 2012 @ 5:24 am